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  • #151565

    Lucas Atkins Topics: 227, Replies: 1547

    Just a heads up…

    We’ve heard whispers and pretty much have confirmed there is another 2,000 job cut to be in effect. The entire Developer Relations team (including Marty Mallick) will be let go, and parts of engineering.

    Perhaps BlackBerry has secured an agreement with a third party app store to fill the gap with a plethora of Android apps?

    Whatever the case, it’s definitely unfortunate, but may mean a more streamlined company and an achieved end game for Chen.

    Sad to see friends and acquaintances leave the company we all love. Hopefully, it only make for a brighter future for the company as a whole.

    #151572

    JT Teran Topics: 56, Replies: 43

    :justsorry:

    Sucks to hear. I’m wondering what Chen has planned as an end game going forward. Hopefully they’ve struck a deal with a partner for apps.

    #151574

    Barracuda7772 Topics: 8, Replies: 20

    This sucks! But, John Chen wouldn’t of made this choice lightly. He’s proven to be a man who weighs the odds on both sides and does what’s best for BlackBerry.

    He has my trust

    #151578

    Anthony Topics: 9, Replies: 571

    Only one or two weeks ago John stated there would be no layoffs. This could be pre-earings call rumblings.

    My preference is BB10 apps and almost all of my apps are BB10 apps. BlackBerry can’t “rely” on android apps, they are noticeably different with archaic app UIs.

    :poundit:

    #151590

    BlackJack Topics: 291, Replies: 1307

    Approve of the non – sensationalist title!!

    BlackBerry fans appreciate this stealthy treatment of unconfirmed rumors!! ;) :heartsmile:

    #151604

    BB4tw Topics: 34, Replies: 81

    Approve of the non – sensationalist title!!

    BlackBerry fans appreciate this stealthy treatment of unconfirmed rumors!! ;) :heartsmile:

    Agreed. If the rumor turns out to be true and some more context from BlackBerry management can be added, then I would recommend officially reporting on it.

    #151626

    oneinfiniteloop Topics: 0, Replies: 17

    John Chen may claim that this was part of the original plan (in a recent interview John Chen said that they are near the tailend of the planned layoffs – so them laying of 2000 people will be interesting news because it would mean that Chen is reshaping BB10 to be an Android phone – along the lines of what Amazon has done).

    I also heard that John Chen said, “”Blackberry well ahead to meet its financial objectives” – can somebody confirm this?

    Also, can somebody confirm if the folks who got to see those new devices at Blackberry London Experience can still buy/short the Blackberry stock? If so then, does it not give those folks an unfair advantage over others?

    #151645

    Omnitech Topics: 0, Replies: 7

    And I’ll give that rumor about a 99.7% chance of being someone’s false and malicious attempt at market manipulation shortly before their quarterly earnings call.

    #151659

    JT Teran Topics: 56, Replies: 43

    And I’ll give that rumor about a 99.7% chance of being someone’s false and malicious attempt at market manipulation shortly before their quarterly earnings call.

    It’s not. Like Lucas wrote in the OP, we have independently confirmed it.

    #151787

    zensen Topics: 107, Replies: 298

    problem with this, if there’s ever talk about them going all android, I will not get a BlackBerry. I would go something from Sony or HTC.

    BlackBerry may have paratek antennas etc but its not enough to convince me that I should choose an android BlackBerry device. Sony already provides a better built waterpoof, dust proof device with a better camera!

    BlackBerry has already given BBM to the android eco-system. I choose blackBerry because of the Operating System. I would love to see better hardware like the camera or water sealing but ultimately its the OS.

    we already have users migrating to z10, z30 all touch devices. The qwerty isn’t enough to keep users on an android device. My next device will be qwerty but not android.

    #151790

    masterful Topics: 0, Replies: 4

    We will see

    #151825

    BlackJack Topics: 291, Replies: 1307

    And I’ll give that rumor about a 99.7% chance of being someone’s false and malicious attempt at market manipulation shortly before their quarterly earnings call.

    Absolutely – expect to see a lot of that crap in this week
    It would be helpful if the BlackBerry army were to go to the financial blogs – motly fool, valuewalk seeking alpha etc and prepare for battle in the comments.

    #152223

    Omnitech Topics: 0, Replies: 7

    Yep, nothing but crickets about this so-called “confirmed rumor” that they are axing another 2000 staff.

    As I said before: “I’ll give that rumor about a 99.7% chance of being someone’s false and malicious attempt at market manipulation shortly before their quarterly earnings call.”

    Now that there’s no evidence in sight to confirm it after their quarterly earnings report and statements, it’s time to retract this malicious claim.

    #152250

    Anthony Topics: 9, Replies: 571

    Lucas, where’s the video of you eating crow? :hacker:

    #152251

    JT Teran Topics: 56, Replies: 43

    They actually did layoff A LOT of employees this week. BlackBerry had previously reported a higher number of layoffs than they actually made, so that these current layoffs would be considered “already announced” in the public’s eye, and would not need to be reported or talked about.

    Brilliant move on their part in my opinion, but unfortunately a lot of people lost their jobs this week. http://www.570news.com/2014/06/18/more-layoffs-at-blackberry-q1-results-due-out-thursday/

    Chen himself has been quoted as saying layoffs are now essentially over. http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=384408

    #152252

    Anthony Topics: 9, Replies: 571

    This is what John stated today in a news article.

    Chen said the company is at the tail-end of the layoffs announced in September 2013, when the company said it would be cutting 4500 workers from its global workforce.

    “I’m actually in the process of focusing on hiring. That’s why I went to the University of Waterloo and said, ‘I want co-ops and I want students, graduating students.’ And I’m doing that pretty much around the world, we’re now re-staffing,” said Chen.

    “I’ll probably start modestly because of the challenges we were just talking about earlier, probably a few hundred, and just go from there.”

    #152260

    Omnitech Topics: 0, Replies: 7

    They actually did layoff A LOT of employees this week. BlackBerry had previously reported a higher number of layoffs than they actually made, so that these current layoffs would be considered “already announced” in the public’s eye, and would not need to be reported or talked about.

    Brilliant move on their part in my opinion, but unfortunately a lot of people lost their jobs this week. http://www.570news.com/2014/06/18/more-layoffs-at-blackberry-q1-results-due-out-thursday/

    Chen himself has been quoted as saying layoffs are now essentially over. http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=384408

    I read that “570news” article and I see no evidence in it that it corroborates the “another 2000 job cut” that Lucas claimed, and I have no idea whether it’s an authoritative source of anything anyway.

    If this were a NEW development, it clearly would have an impact on their financials and would have been included as part of their quarterly news, since 2000 people is between 1/4 to 1/3 of their entire workforce at this point.

    Neither have I seen any discussion anywhere else about Marty Mallick leaving the company, except in this thread.

    Neither is it remotely credible that developer relations had anything remotely approaching a staffing level of 2000 people. That’s probably off by at least an order of magnitude.

    Mallick’s Linked-In profile still shows him at the company:

    http://ca.linkedin.com/in/martynmallick

    This blog post introducing him and his new position is still live:

    http://devblog.blackberry.com/2014/02/introducing-marty-mallick-blackberrys-new-vp-of-global-alliances-and-ecosystems/

    Application Developer’s Alliance just profiled him at his BB position less than a month ago:

    http://www.appalliance.org/board-bios/2014/6/3/martyn-mallick

    #152261

    Razrrob Topics: 0, Replies: 2

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JT Teran wrote:</div>
    They actually did layoff A LOT of employees this week. BlackBerry had previously reported a higher number of layoffs than they actually made, so that these current layoffs would be considered “already announced” in the public’s eye, and would not need to be reported or talked about.

    Brilliant move on their part in my opinion, but unfortunately a lot of people lost their jobs this week. http://www.570news.com/2014/06/18/more-layoffs-at-blackberry-q1-results-due-out-thursday/

    Chen himself has been quoted as saying layoffs are now essentially over. http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=384408

    I read that “570news” article and I see no evidence in it that it corroborates the “another 2000 job cut” that Lucas claimed, and I have no idea whether it’s an authoritative source of anything anyway.

    If this were a NEW development, it clearly would have an impact on their financials and would have been included as part of their quarterly news, since 2000 people is between 1/4 to 1/3 of their entire workforce at this point.

    Neither have I seen any discussion anywhere else about Marty Mallick leaving the company, except in this thread.

    Neither is it remotely credible that developer relations had anything remotely approaching a staffing level of 2000 people. That’s probably off by at least an order of magnitude.

    Mallick’s Linked-In profile still shows him at the company:

    http://ca.linkedin.com/in/martynmallick

    This blog post introducing him and his new position is still live:

    http://devblog.blackberry.com/2014/02/introducing-marty-mallick-blackberrys-new-vp-of-global-alliances-and-ecosystems/

    Application Developer’s Alliance just profiled him at his BB position less than a month ago:

    http://www.appalliance.org/board-bios/2014/6/3/martyn-mallick

    Nice try Omni but save your breath. There are no amount of reason or facts that would get them to retract this fabricated story – as you said, no mention during Earnings Report, AMG, and even BGR missed it (if you can believe that). List just one other source

    #152266

    BlackJack Topics: 291, Replies: 1307

    Well let’s make sure nobody misses any potentially “bad news” about BlackBerry, right JT? I mean we don’t want any of all the good news today to overshadow the “bad” now do we? I mean that’s what a true BlackBerry fan site does, right??

    Right?

    You have two posts in this thread “setting the record straight”. And then no apologies when you guys get it wrong.
    Like when Chen was “abandoning handsets” and when he was “ignoring all touch devices”

    I don’t recall anyone setting the record straight then, only defense of your rumor propagating and blaming other news sources.
    Hmmmm…..

    Way to grow a “BlackBerry fan site”.

    Aren’t there some bugs to fix in here?

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